European Serif?

Any ideas on the ID of this serif face? We purchased it from Europe. Check out the tail on that Q!

Thanks.

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Bears a very strong resemblance to Della Robia.

I don’t have many European wood type catalogs. I looked in the few I do have and didn’t find it. It is not even close to Della Robia, other than the fact that it does have a wide T.

Rick

My reason for stating the wood type bears a “strong resemblance” to Della Robbia:
ATF Type Specimen Book, 1931, p. 124. Note “Qu” and “QU” characters.
Caslon, Cloister, Eusebius, and others, none come close to that “Qu, QU
Perhaps some of our wood type aficionados with Rob Roy Kelly’s book, can help us out with this one as it’s likely to be American as the Qu would not likely be used elsewhere. Any markings on cap “A”? How about size? Pica? Cicero?

Hi There from England,
Right I have perused specimen books from 1925 by Ullmer and 1930 by Caslon. I suspect the Caps are Gayton. Unfortunately the specimen doesnt show a T even though it is very wide. The lower case may belong to a “light” fount. It is possible some of the lesser known foundries were cutting wood letter on the cheap and copying designs and making their own variations to avoid copyright rules. In my experience later Caslon letters are not marked Ullmers are, and like Delittle’s on each cap A.
Which made me just look at the Delittle’s catalogue and its also similar to their “Eboracum” which is the Roman name for York, where they were based in the North of England.
Best,
Jeremy

I think this exact font sold recently on UK Ebay, and called “Perpetua”.

look at Ebay #260783035337

regards,
Philip

The font (260783035337) sold on ebay recently states that there is NO cap “Q” as it was trimmed to make an “O”! Sorry!

The lowercase is definitely Perpetua. I am not at all convinced that the caps shown go with this lowercase. The weight of the strokes in the capitals seems to be much heavier than those of the Perpetua lowercase.

Also keep in mind that fonts cut in wood were made from master patterns that were not necessarily exactly identicle to their foundry counterparts. The pattern makers often took lots of liberties with their interpretations. Most wood fonts can very very similar to their metal counterparts, but are almost never a dead-ringer for the metal face.

Rick