Age of Old Style Pilot

Hi Folks,

I have an old style C&P Pilot that has the name across the front Chandler and Price, Cleveland, Ohio straight, (not curved), and the word Pilot on the back, and that is curved. The arms for the table are curved or “scalloped”. I was reading on another post that this would indicate this press is older rather than newer, as far as the old style Pilots go. Does anyone have any ideas on the age? A close ball park would be really appreciated!!

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No ideas? I would love to hear any thoughts!

What method was used to secure the lever? I believe key stock came afterwards. The oldest seem to have used a conical pointed set screw, in my opinion… Don’t asssume all parts are original to a press.

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It appears to be the conical screw, as I have not found a set screw to take the handle off. The press was found behind a shed in 2 inches of mud, and it’s all intact; I’m just trying to clean it up and was wondering on an approximate date, like 1920s, 1910, or 1800s??

Fortunately there is little damage from the rust… …

You confuse me a bit. If you haven’t yet found the set screw how would know that it is conical on the end? The set screw ought to be opposite of the lever on the boss, sometimes they are at 90 degress to the lever facing rear-ward. The oldest have a square drive whereas the newer ones had a internal hex (Allen) - but that would be an Improved Series (New Style). Use lots and lots of oil. In my opinion penetrating oils are of limited value but WD-40 is excellent. I have taken apart many presses that were rusted to the point of being solidly locked up. Take your time do not be tempted to use heat. Keep in mind that the roller arms are attached with tapered pins and located on their shaft with Dutch pins. Contact me directly if you need disassembly help (coaching). Your press could likely be pre 1900.
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