Need help from font identification gurus

I’m hoping one of the font gurus on here can help me identify these two fonts. They came (along with a lot of other type) with a press I recently got. In both cases, I only have the capital letters and few of them. They don’t seem to have any identifying marks on them.

Thanks for your help!

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Neither of these faces has a lowercase, so you are not missing those characters. Your first face is Umbra, designed in 1932 by Robert Hunter Middleton for Ludlow. This popular design has also been cast on Monotype and Thompson casters (which is what you have).

Your second face is Shadow and it was first offered by ATF in 1934.

Rick

Thanks, Rick!