stuck for overloading . Victoria B rockstroh werk from 1930 - similar to vicobol

Hello, i recently started pressing with Victoria B rockstroh werk from 1930.
Being a begginer we overload with paper the bed of the press, and it stopped at the impression. The flywheel is stuck, the machine is frozen, and it wont go backwards manually. We dont know if it is a problem of the brake/clutch, that needs to be readjust, or if something happen with the pinion.
We are still trying, so please anyone familiar with this machine and how to repair this clutch is totally appreciated
Thanks in advance

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Here i post some more photos of the brake and clutch now, after being stuck, and a photo of how was before, and a photo of the press

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I have essentially the same press, but haven’t experienced this. Other than releasing the impression control bar, no suggestion.
There is a simple manual, and its instructions for adjusting the friction clutch will be helpful when you reassemble it.
I have the manual “VICBOOK1.PDF” stored at
https://groups.io/g/universal-platen
and you can download it from the files section. There is a more elaborate manual, but it is in Dutch:
“Victoria_Gally_degelpers.pdf”

hi, thanks for your quick answer. The impression bar was released, but there is not the problem. I allready checked those manuals, but the clutch it describes is not the one from this precise model, circa 1930. Those are older or newer i guess. The vicbook1.pdf still gives some ideas on page 25 whenever the machine is stuck as a result of overloading. : ” if, as a result of excessive pressure, the press becomes stuck on the impression disengage the friction clutch…the fly wheel is then turned until the 3/4” hole is in register with the hole of the same size in the wide spoke of the friction ring, and the square bolt supplied with the machine inserted into this holes. In this way the fly-wheel and friction ring are coupled together so that a slipping of the fly wheel is rendered impossible after the clutch has again been engaged by pulling the striker lever…with the aid of the fly wheel turn the machine backwards or forwards. Having released the machine, the bolt is removed “
Well, i am still looking for that bolt, and i will try this move. Hope that releases the engine, because now It seems like the fly wheel shaft is totally locked and wont move.

The manuals are surely newer, and my Vic is older, pre-WWI, and 15x21 format. It was made by Rockstroh & Schneider in Dresden and sold by Victoria Press Mfg Co in London. Every other Vic I have seen is either later Rockstroh-Werke in Dresden, or British-made Pershke.
Your press with two ink cylinders looks closer to mine, but my impression control is the long bar and two sliders, not the knob and single slider, and has four form rollers with rider brackets. I have the same roller-check knob as you but to engage the clutch there is a low lever just left of the roller-check; disengaging the clutch is from the high lever, which has a bar that would connect to a safety hanger, if it was still there, disengaging the clutch if a hand was over the platen as it closed. That might just make my press OSHA-safe.
Another potential Vic feature is one or two form rollers that are lifted on the down stroke but lowered on the up stroke to reduce ghosting. I lack those but they might be retrofitted.
The A3 AutoVic I ran at Arion Press had a single ink cylinder and three form rollers; the very similar Pershke AutoVic at Moving Parts Press was destroyed in a Santa Cruz firestorm. Don’t know any US Vics otherwise, and one smaller Vicobold in some Canadian college museum. Britain has probably the greatest count of surviving Vics.

My Victoria is even earlier, with a disc for inking and is treadle operated. No power so cannot be of much help. Except to add that the 3rd roller thats raised on my press whilst over the forme has the sole function of transferring ink from the duct to the disc. Taking off the impression to no effect makes certain that its in the clutch area that your problem lies.