Chandler & Price 10x15 NS Base Question

Hi everyone! My [new] C&P 10x15 NS is arriving tomorrow. I am wondering if it’s okay to leave it on the wooden boards it is currently on and to work on it while it’s on those boards. I’ve attached a photo for reference.

Oh, and if anyone has any information on the Miller Feeder attachment, I would so appreciate help there too. I am planning to detach it from the machine, however, and replacing them with feed boards.

I appreciate your help!

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The runners and boards are just fine. You may want to leave them forever. A level floor is best, but a bit off level is not a problem as long as it is not irregular. You do not want it wonky like a chair with a short leg. Not real critical. If you have a short leg, just shim it up.
If you are going to remove the feeder, try to get it to someone who will use it. Advertise and you may get someone to remove it if you give it free or for little cost.
The feeders were for commercial work and not much loved by hobby and craft printers.
Get correct dimensions for the delivery board. One of the important functions of the delivery board is to keep the printer at the proper distance from the platen. Height of the press is also important for safety. The delivery board should be waist height.

How it would be, or possibly be accomodated here in U.K. providing the pump truck is on hand for a little while at least, line it up for eventual position, mark up the floor, scene of crime, body style!! pump it out of the way, construct a platform of say 4 inch X 2 inch timber/lumber with overlap joints at every corner, just bigger than the footprint of the machine, one small channel in the underside of the rear section to accomodate the power input safely (if practical) Then mark up at scene of crime!! 2 points, halfway along the front to rear timbers and incorporate, through the timbers, 1 each rawlbolt (for concrete) or big coachbolts (for main underfloor timbers/joists) and secure it down, with the thought in mind that in raised up situation, it may just try to walk backwards and forwards!!! * See Footnote.* Which will also help when pinching/levering it (the Machine) from any temporary platform, onto permanent base. It would seem to be a plus to at least attempt to run a few impressions with the Auto Feeder before removal so that at some point in the future , (as opposed to metaphorically giving it away immediately) having mothballed it, and when somebody just happens to be desperate for one, you can quote, “I/We have one such, working perfectly on removal, AND we have good schematic diagram for every last nut bolt washer etc” and consequently name a fair price, to a genuine would be printer, Perhaps the supply and demand works differently in The States. Good Luck.>>>>> Footnote, I learnt the hard way up to a point, I used A Thompson Auto Platen, Mounted thus, just for repro-ing Monotype Cast material for conversion to Litho use. I only needed to run a few copies at very low speed, but a buddy frequently came in and used my machine for production runs into thousands, because he lived and breathed Thompsons, used to almost make mine fly, consequently because it was on my platform, on a Bona Fide heavily painted factory floor, it tended to go walk about, but eventually with adhesive from (I suspect) A Heidleberg Engineer/Installer, the problem was solved.

Thank you inky and monotype mick for the advice.

I got a great quote from someone to move the machine to my place, but it had to be today, and so I got it today, and I left it on the wooden boards. The floor is level, and it seems to be secure. I need to attach a motor and hopefully that will not compromise the weight on the boards. I will have to get/build a platform to work on it so that the delivery area in the feeder is at waist level (thanks, inky, for that advice!).

monotype mick, I did exactly what you recommended; I marked up my garage floor murder scene style.

I have figured out that I can hand-feed the machine by opening up the feeder (which, by the way, weighs a ton! or it feels like that; it was only my 5th attempt where I was able to lift it up completely). So it’s nice for now while I figure out the feeder or wait for an interested party.

Thanks, guys, for responding to my post. I appreciate it!!!

Hi _reese,

I’m getting my C&P 10x15 NS this Friday, and I may be interested in your Miller Feeder.

Please contact me directly to talk about it:
jsindorf (at) gmail (dot) com

And, regarding feed boards - be careful with the delivery board (the lower one) - the original design has the forward edge (in my humble opinion) too close to the platen. I’ve heard of too many fingers getting pinched in that gap. Many have replaced the vertical backstop piece of wood with something softer - like a rubber strip.

have fun!

jsindorf, I sent you an email a few days ago. Did you receive it?

Hi _reese,

I have a 10x15 Chandler and Price Craftsman Press, Not sure if this auto feed would fit my press (does anyone know). My press has a “U” shaped axle for an auto feed, but I am to understand the auto feed is air suction. (I can’t tell from the photo or know enough about this feed to know if it is in fact the same kind meant for my press)

However, if it doesn’t work with jsindorf, I may be interested in acquiring this feed.

inquiry (at) inkplatepress (dot) com

Thanks!

Jerpchap,

Just sent you an email!

_reese I would be interested in your Miller feeder, I can as well make you new feeder tables as part of a deal.

email me if nothing else comes about

inkandhammer at gmail

The 1926 third edition of the catalog for Miller Automatic Feeders is now online at:

http://circuitousroot.com/artifice/letters/press/presses/miller-feeders/...

(This links over to an Internet Archive presentation for the “read online” option; this is easiest, but for the best image quality you’ll want the large PDF (if your net connection can handle it - it’s 613 Meg.))

This is a catalog, not a manual, but it does illustrate several operational features of these feeders by way of advertising them. It also contains information on various attachments for these feeders, and on various Miller and C&P press accessories.

Regards,
David M.
www.CircuitousRoot.com

The 1922 edition of the Book of Instructions for Miller Automatic Feeders is now online, at the same location as the 1926 catalog reprinted earlier:

http://circuitousroot.com/artifice/letters/press/presses/miller-feeders/...

As with the catalog, the easiest option is to click on the icon to go to the Internet Archive version and then use their “read online” option. If you want the best-quality version for your own computer, download the big PDF (233 Megabytes) from either the CircuitousRoot page or the Internet Archive page. (They are the same file. This is the version that I upload to the IA; the other versions on the IA are automatically derived from it.)

Regards,
David M.
www.CircuitousRoot.com

Thank you, David M MacMillan! This is amazing!!!!

A scan of an undated (but early 1920s) parts catalog for Miller platen press feeders is now online at:

http://circuitousroot.com/artifice/letters/press/presses/miller-feeders/...

or direct at:

http://archive.org/details/MillerAutomaticPressFeedersPartsCatalogue

This completes a basic set of documents for this equipment (brochure, instruction manual, parts book). I must say, Miller put out some rather nice documentation.

Regards,
David M.
www.CircuitousRoot.com