Saw guide? What is it?

Hey Folks,

Been doing some clean-up and came across what I believe is a saw guide, but It doesn’t fit the Ben Franklin saw I use, and there’s no makers mark on it. The only marking I can see is between the sets of holes where the pins go in that say “Left Side of Saw” and “Right Side of Saw”. The gear and track open and close the space between the two sides, and the top knob screws down to lock positioning. Has anyone ever seen one of these and knows what it’s proper name is, or knows what type of saw it would go to, or even who made it?


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Not every printer’s saw is a composing room saw like a Hammond or Morrison. There were also table saws and bandsaws for trimming electrotypes and stereotypes, etc. This piece might come from that area.

3 C. P. (Cory) A few *ramblings* that May or May Not help, apologies if the later applies.
As You state - Left side of Saw and Right side of Saw it is just possible that, the machine/saw that it was originally intended for was the type, not necessarily dedicated Printers, more general purpose. that employed Solid One piece bed or top with just the Blade and Hub assembly with rise and fall facilities, to retract into the bed down to zero, or to undercut any product required.!
IF so, and we have one such M/c. on sight !! The blade is set Dead Centre on the table top and has simple sliders, (T) shaped, sitting in slots machined into the top on BOTH sides of the blade, to enable work to be registered against the *Side Lay Gauges* from either side.
Just speculation that with the addition of Your attachment, (Which is probably reversible through 180 degrees, in use) the means to alter the position of the side lay in fine increments, would be a bonus.?

Here U.K. Precision Printers dedicated Saws were/are a little >thin on the ground< we still have (mainly) one such machine, worth writing home about, i.e. FUNDITOR, heavy cast Iron, free standing, rise and fall Blade hub/column assembly, but with the top, in 2 sections, the right hand 1/2 fixed as part of the casting, the left hand 1/2 in the form of a sliding table mounted on 2 Roller bearing tracks, incorporating a micrometer thread side Gauge, with Click stop positioning in ems/pica and 12 points per complete revolution of the Barrel.

In original Ex factory form the Funditor would have arrived equipped with, 2, 6” blades, + 3 precision ground *trimmers* that were carried in the hub of the blade mount.
The Blade took the initial cut, and then the trimmers correctly positioned, within the hub, took the end result down to 100% (exactly) of the eventual size required.
Also the M/c. was supplied with a Precision Test Block, to set the Side gauge for accuracy.

**Trimmers, not now generally in use, because with the Arrival of Tungsten/Carbide tipped blades, with the tips wider than the base material, they (the tips) give perfect finish in just one pass.

Again apologies, if the above is rubbish but MAY prompt some good info. Good luck Mick

Imp and Mick,

I think you’re both onto something that it probably doesn’t go to a trim saw, but to more of a general purpose saw. It’s pretty long in length, about 2-2.5 feet so it would make sense for it to sit on a larger tabletop saw where there isn’t any clamps and runners like a trim-o-saw. Hoping someone recognizes the piece just so I can put a maker or age to the piece purely out of curiosity.


Three Cheers, Thank You. Dreary afternoon in *The Deep South* of U.K. - of course, hence the following:-
After My Monotype, my most prized possession is an all singing all dancing (Dedicated) Printers Power Saw, by the MILLER Saw Trimmer Co., out of Pittsburgh, U.S.A.

Acquired by the Monotype Corporation (Redhill Surrey U.K.) early 50,s. In the eventual Shut Down a lot of the equipment was heading for the Scrap Heap, but a few far sighted Ex Employees saved what they could, including the *Miller* saw trimmer, now in My protective custody.!

There is a considerable amount of info on the Net/Web or whatever.

One of the first, of many entries, shows the original, Catalogue, (which I own, if all else fails) which includes many pages and shots of the MANY MANY, attachments, If You are able to wade through it, You will surely see items that have relevance to Your quest.

I will have to enlist some (or a lot of) help to post some shots on B.P. if only for the Inside Back cover = Full Colour of a Chandler & Price press, with A MILLER Auto Feeder.

With (of course) the obligatory MILLER badge around the circumference of the Fly Wheel.

***The Patent dates, start at 1901, through to 1917, in U.S.- U.K.- France. My serial number is S T L, 186.

Good Luck. Mick

Cheers Mick! I’ll take a look and see if I can find a similar attachment in a miller manual

3 Cheers, As their are many pages in the manual, illustrating a wide spectrum of the attachments, for the Miller Saw/Trimmer, but it does make *food for thought* if just a few of the >New Kids on the Block< are given the opportunity to see what WAS possible, may prompt what IS possible.

Not all are necessarily High Tech. even something as simple as a Dedicated, Angle Block device with built in Clamp!

Blast from the past, but still (possibly) relevant today.
During apprenticeship days, even though H. & S. was in its infancy, safety in the workplace was part of the deal.
Women and Young persons, were monitored and governed by the H.& S. executive, by implication the use of potentially dangerous machine was always made clear!!
Especially electrical and rotating equipment, as in the Power Saw Trimmer, with the blade rotating under fluorescent tube lighting, i.e. when the blade passed the 50 R.P.M. or (cycles) mark it corresponded to the frequency of the mains supply (U.K. 50 cycles per second 60 cycles per second U.S. ?)

With the usual background noise, in a busy Composing Room it was quite easy to NOT hear the saw running, and at the right point and frequency clash, ???

This syndrome has served well over the yrs.
I.e. Being a Rock and Roll fan, it was and still is nice to know when the 45 R.P.M 7” turntable is turning at exactly 45 revs per minute, and Ditto 78 R.P.M. 10” turntable is turning at (exactly) 78 revs per minute, achieved via the chequered band (black & white) around the circumference of the turntable, also used very successfully on the Juke Boxes that arrive from the U.S. when converted from 60 cycles 110/120 volts U.S. to 50 cycles 240 volts U.K.
Just acquired a Mint Condition 45 R.P.M. 7” single of Steven Lincoln Wray,s RUMBLE !!
Met Him in glorious down-town Brighton many yrs. ago but had to take issue with Him after the *Gig* because He was selling C.D.s but not 45,s. Perhaps now influenced by the Revival in Vinyl.