Adjusting a Kluge feeder’s delivery arm

I have a C&P 10x15 with a Kluge feeder and have an issue with the delivery arm. I picked the press up about 2 weeks ago so I haven’t had much chance to play around with it yet…

When the delivery arm comes back to drop the sheet, the suckers rub against the tympan for the last 2” or so. If I adjust the arm up so the suckers just miss hitting, they end up about a half inch above the paper and it won’t grab it when the press opens.

From what I can tell, my options are to throw a few washers under the back of the delivery track bracket to raise the angle at which it pulls back or try and shorten the delivery track lift connection rod (pt # 274 in my parts manual) by screwing it further into the bearing at the bottom.

Or is there an easier method I’m missing?

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i jog the press with a sheet on the pins until the delivery succers drop onto it to remove it, then i adjust them so they are just above the sheet.

Dick, That’s how I’m adjusting it, but when it’s set to be just above the sheet, on the way out the suckers start dragging on the tympan.

When it’s high enough to clear the tympan, it’s too high to grab the sheet.

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try adjusting the suckers just above the sheet, then put a tape spring under each sucker. i do this on everything i run, and only have to use the rubber suckers on really heavy stock.

My kluge has tape on the delivery sucker rail for that reason I suspect. It starts just after the suckers pick up the sheet then builds to 5 or 6 layers as it clears the back of the platten. Never had your problem but the previous owner must have. Would only take a minute to try and easy to remove if it doesn’t work. Good luck!

The pictures make the platen look like it is high on the top, thus the dragging of suckers, can you lower the platen so that your delivery suckers clear?

I have been exploring…

You’re probably using a feeder sucker meant for cardboard or for curly or irregular stock. Don’t do anything else but change the suckers or just use the rings without rubber suckers.
See the following:

You might get these from Rudow, American Printing Equipment, NA Graphics.
Buy the book, C&P instruction book is somewhat different than Kluge.

Chris, Sir, little blast from the past but probably still current/relevant, (if your U.S.A. based Graphic suppliers are up to speed)
The following was litho orientated application, but would presumably work on any delivery system, Litho/Letterpress, picking up the end product must be the same regardless of the printed sheet origin??
The method employed the use of a (substituted) sucker foot/feet that were telescopic, operating in telescopic manner, immediately after the sheet blanked the vacuum, raised the foot, and the sheet clear of the delivery, irrespective of absence or presence of clearance, up to a point???
Is it worth checking with U.S.A based Graphic Suppliers.??
Apologies for silly suggestion if it be a Red Herring!!!
But as necessity is the mother of invention, give your suckers a LIFT physically and metaphorically, POSSIBLY?

not sure what you have here. A C&P with the feeder added on, or a C&P built by kluge with the feeder attached. either way you need to explore trying to bring the angle of the platen to more parallel to the angle of the slide rail that the delivery runs on. can you lift, by shims or whatnot, the tail end of the slide rail? (don’t want the delivery to hit the magazine) Or as girl with a kluge suggested lowering the top of your platen?
You can also drill, tap and add a small plate to the delivery cam that would allow the the arm to drop and pick the sheet, then, on the way out raise up high enough to clear the platen. this is rather drastic, but, it is a permanent fix.
don’t shorten the rod. the arm will hit the front when it comes in to pick the sheet.

Could you post a photo showing more of the feeder mechanism. The pickup sucker/tubes are a lot shorter than on a kluge. It may be a timing issue with the cam that controls the “lift” of the suckers.
Ted Lavin
Artificer press

I believe the sucker foot that Mick on Monotype is referring to is commercially branded as “BIGFOOT” suckers, and are available for a variety of offset presses and also for the Miehle Vertical. I believe they were not made for any other brand of press and would be difficult to apply to a Kluge, given the limited vertical travel of the feeder and delivery sucker shoes.

Big Foots are available for the Kluge, part BF1040. I have sold several sets and people seem pleased. I use them exclusively on my Miehle Vertical and wouldn’t use anything else. Big foots are made for many models of presses, mainly offset.


I have used Bigfoot suckers on multi’s -they do the job.(particularly with envelopes) But there is still a problem to be looked at.
Ted Lavin
Artificer press

Big Foot, (Feet) suckers, Mike, Ted, Fritz, thank you for you corroboration, I post what I believe to be helpful rubbish in the hope that, as here, well informed friends will cross the “Ts” and dot the “Is” as evident!!!
Monotype C*** tends to push the other stuff to the depths of the memory banks, but as I attended for some 14 years, Print related auctions, for fun, did have the opportunity to come into contact with some amazing and varied equipment, and of course spent considerable time chatting to Resident Engineers, Operators retained to demo the machinery, and visiting advisers, Picking their brains, learning etc.

Did cost many Cups of Coffee, But Hey! what price Info??

It was pointed out that, (probably before the big foot was devised) Sucker bars fixed in one plane, and acting as a whole, even with alternative rubber suckers and the ability to shut off un-needed heads still did not cope with all stock, in solid bar form, Adequently and for all stock!!
This Apparently gave rise to the fore-runner of Big Foot!!
As Ted implies for Envelopes, with different thicknesses, and Curly stock, sucker feet, with the ability to act independantly, over and above the fixed bar, and fixed feet, was a plus!!!
***Probably on one Model of the Glockner Mercedes and even earlier on A KELLY??***… Thank you. Mick

Hi All,
We have a Kluge for die-cutting where I work. It’s been thirty years since I have ran one and I have a question about the arm adjustment. I know there is an adjustment mechanism at the top ot arm support but I do not remember how it works. I would appreciate any advice I could get for this. Thank You, Danny

if it the one i think you speak of, it is for fine tuning the “level” left to right of the sucker tips. they usually seize up after some time and the adjustment is made by hand.