Dating a C&P Pilot Press

This past weekend I was fortunate enough to win an auction for a C&P oldstyle Pilot press in my area.
Thankfully a good scrub and new rollers look to be all I need to get it functional!
Though this brings me to a question that google offered me little insight into, how to date a pilot press. The closest I have gotten is an article that stated the Pilot name on the rear of the press was only used until the early 20th century. Anyone know of a way to get a more definitive answer?

Thank you in advance,
Sean
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I’m sure someone will chime in with a joke about dating a printing press so I’ll leave that to others.

As for the Pilots there are no known records of serial numbers or manufacturing information. You have a ‘regular’ or Old Style Pilot so it’s likely that it’s probably from the early 1900s. The side arms on the press aren’t fluted like some of the earliest examples I’ve seen so it’s probably somewhere closer to the 1930s or 40s.

That’s not much help really‚Ķ but it’s probably about as good as it gets. Others may have more information, but probably nothing terribly specific.

Brad.

Brad, I sure walked into that one!

Thanks for the tips about sidearms. Hopefully I can come across more information about its heritage and narrow it down that way some more.

Sean

Sean,
This is an interesting point about the “pilot” name in the casting being used only on the earlier Old Style Pilot presses. I have an Old Style like yours but do not have the “pilot” name in the casting. Can you point me to the article where you read this? It could be a way to identify earlier vs later models of the Old Style Pilot press.
John

From what I have tracked down…
http://www.briarpress.org/32910
Ink Spot says “We have been told that C & P began production of the Improved Pilot (N.S.) in 1914.”

There is further mention of that here:
http://excelsiorpress.org/platenpresses/Pilot/Thorp-Cleveland/index.html
“When Chandler & Price announced their “New Series” of free-standing Platen Job Presses (8x12, 10x15, 12x18, 14x22) to the commercial market in 1914, they continued to promote what we know as the “Early Series” Pilot as the only bench-top press offered. “

but then this one says that castings were updated around 1950
http://www.apa-letterpress.com/T%20&%20P%20ARTICLES/Press%20&%20Presswor...

This one has a bit more information and some photos of details
http://www.briarpress.org/25177

The post I saw that you’re asking about..of course a day later I cannot find! I know Stephen Saxe’s name was associated with it. I will dig deeper and see if I can find it.